tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3355227236397241799.post346444363563901614..comments2024-01-05T13:11:48.050+00:00Comments on ...and what will be left of them?: No Encorecarlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17886258675618058752noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3355227236397241799.post-18972217951684903562011-05-27T08:16:18.417+01:002011-05-27T08:16:18.417+01:00Basic Channel? Interesting - they left me very col...Basic Channel? Interesting - they left me very cold even when I was a 'technohead'. I just never got it.<br /><br />I probably came up with Arcade Fire, cos they were the only mainstream 'indie' band I could think of. A lot of the more 'hipster' bands just merge into one big haircut for me. Always tripping up on the throwaway examples... I'll never learn...David K Waynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10756535951359716522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3355227236397241799.post-61084895355599031472011-05-27T02:03:26.925+01:002011-05-27T02:03:26.925+01:00Their first album is called "Funeral," a...Their first album is called "Funeral," after all. Definitely pretty community-minded, too, decreasingly so as their discography continues--"Funeral" you can sing along to, listen to with friends, etc., but I can't imagine anyone doing the same thing with "The Suburbs." It's to their detriment, really; they're shit when they get too serious.<br /><br />Anyway, Bach or Basic Channel for me.Will Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08646120367679500447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3355227236397241799.post-51666113227707211092011-05-25T04:59:05.986+01:002011-05-25T04:59:05.986+01:00"there's probably LOADS of people who wou..."there's probably LOADS of people who would have AF play at their funerals."<br /><br />Indeed. Isn't that what they are actually aiming for?<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI2CYcgkNoAEdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01409303370931148796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3355227236397241799.post-75056886476481871752011-05-24T05:29:40.273+01:002011-05-24T05:29:40.273+01:00OK - duh. You're above points weren't take...OK - duh. You're above points weren't taken into account (especially regarding Amy, Adele etc.). Not least because I don't pay much attention to these things these days.<br /><br />I haven't listned to Arcade Fire much either - first album could have been called 'Remain in The Unforgettable Fire Light'. Skip.<br /><br />Didn't think people disliked soul - far from it. Just that it wasn't likely to be discussed as much as other genres.David K Waynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10756535951359716522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3355227236397241799.post-77753090591492231172011-05-23T18:33:48.445+01:002011-05-23T18:33:48.445+01:00i'm not that mystified by soul being in the li...i'm not that mystified by soul being in the list, for a start most of the participants aren't your typical bloggerati types, as far as i can tell they wouldn't be writing about black metal/hypnagogic/whatever, their tastes probably run more to the explicitly emotional<br /><br />also the reason soul isn't much of a reference point in hipster music discussions is that the contemporary stuff that has any reference to those traditions is the Adele/Duffy/Winehouse/Plan B/Josh Stone type stuff... which probably takes it off the table as an influence-resource<br /><br />(i have that bleedin' Adele song going round in my brain like an endless loop)<br /><br />but i don't one can deduce from that people don't love the great soul music of the past... in my case discovering all that music was a big part of my youth<br /><br />also, don't know about hipsterworld, but American rockcritics favourite single last year was Cee-Lo's "Fuck You" which is as soul-y as they come (and undeniable)SIMON REYNOLDShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01282478701882900354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3355227236397241799.post-84855439761891008372011-05-23T18:26:30.606+01:002011-05-23T18:26:30.606+01:00aren't Arcade Fire all about passion and commu...aren't Arcade Fire all about passion and community?<br /><br />i say that only have listened to each of their albums about twice<br /><br />it's all about uplift. there's probably LOADS of people who would have AF play at their funeralsSIMON REYNOLDShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01282478701882900354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3355227236397241799.post-67148413235115964352011-05-22T16:57:06.826+01:002011-05-22T16:57:06.826+01:00Ah, they're on my computer, too, now. Dunno wh...Ah, they're on my computer, too, now. Dunno what was up there. Thanks. Great tunes.Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01409303370931148796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3355227236397241799.post-8243123624215557022011-05-22T03:12:39.834+01:002011-05-22T03:12:39.834+01:00WTF? They're on my computer now.
'Stay In...WTF? They're on my computer now.<br /><br />'Stay In My Corner' and 'Make Sure You Have Someone Who Loves You' by The Dells. You can get the idea from the titles, I suppose.David K Waynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10756535951359716522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3355227236397241799.post-11798465107948280962011-05-22T03:02:21.951+01:002011-05-22T03:02:21.951+01:00So I am left in agonizing suspense: both songs sho...So I am left in agonizing suspense: both songs show "the video you have requested is not available". <br /><br />So what were they?<br /><br />ThanksEdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01409303370931148796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3355227236397241799.post-67343044962226998132011-05-21T20:22:07.295+01:002011-05-21T20:22:07.295+01:00Right - there's a reason why you won't hea...Right - there's a reason why you won't hear P.Diddy or Arcade Fire played at weddings or funerals (except their own maybe). No sense of community or completeness.David K Waynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10756535951359716522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3355227236397241799.post-456877764430531592011-05-21T19:43:53.177+01:002011-05-21T19:43:53.177+01:00Dunno if that's what I meant. I was merely thi...Dunno if that's what I meant. I was merely think of form, aesthetics (and perhaps content, but to a lesser degree) and how certain people respond to it.<br /><br />And also putting it all in a contempo context. Speaking for myself, I'd venture that maybe lots of people especially feeling certain types of music these days, because that music offers something that assembly-line hiphop or the Unbearable Whiteness of so much recent indie rock doesn't/hasn't.Greyhooshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14161781141733273715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3355227236397241799.post-2600791859355352542011-05-21T19:11:48.732+01:002011-05-21T19:11:48.732+01:00Maybe its a generational thing? I mean, like how &...Maybe its a generational thing? I mean, like how "mother!" is alleged to be the most common last word of a soldier's final moments. Like country & western, soul offers emotionally direct 'stories'. They're rarely ambiguous or distanced in their lyrics.David K Waynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10756535951359716522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3355227236397241799.post-30587100700995126812011-05-21T17:11:01.868+01:002011-05-21T17:11:01.868+01:00Re, temporary utopia: Or perhaps because it consti...Re, temporary utopia: Or perhaps because it constitutes its own complete, sophisticated, and fully-developed aesthetic. And one that's so historically remote from the present.<br /><br />I seem to recall something similar turning up in the art world over the years. Some critic or art journalist would be interviewing some artist whose work bore all the trademark postmod sensibilities -- coolly detached by way of irony, conceptual, usually based in appropriated cultural imagery, etc. When they ask the artist to name an artwork that they'd most like to own, they were often (for whatever reason) surprised to learn that they'd most like to have a DeKooning or a Rothko hanging in their home. <br /><br />BTW, Fair warning to readers: Anyone who clicks on the link for the Flavorwire piece might want to proceed with caution. I kept bumping into repeated attempts at a malware download as I paged through the thing.Greyhooshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14161781141733273715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3355227236397241799.post-15935538874207481232011-05-21T07:19:04.723+01:002011-05-21T07:19:04.723+01:00Maybe all the chilly hipsters, misogynist MCs and ...Maybe all the chilly hipsters, misogynist MCs and metal nazis are saving their last five minutes of life to say something honest. Hate, theory and irony - it's all nervous foreplay, really...<br /><br />I take you've read 'Lipstick Traces'? Very interesting book, but the theme of some temporarily invisible utopia could easily apply to classic soul. Certainly the case with disco - far more subversive (socially, if not business-wise) in the long run than punk.David K Waynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10756535951359716522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3355227236397241799.post-7499321181960323472011-05-21T05:11:44.716+01:002011-05-21T05:11:44.716+01:00"Hell Awaits" by Slayer.
Sorry, ...coul..."Hell Awaits" by Slayer.<br /><br />Sorry, ...couldn't resist.<br /><br />But seriously, the prevalence of soul material is really baffling. Especially considering (as you mention) it's utter absence as any sort of a musical or critical reference source.Greyhooshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14161781141733273715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3355227236397241799.post-64931188560123017702011-05-21T04:39:40.041+01:002011-05-21T04:39:40.041+01:00Umm.. Sickbed of Cuchulain by the Pogues and Body ...Umm.. Sickbed of Cuchulain by the Pogues and Body of an American at my funeral. Booyah.JMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03223879013564312871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3355227236397241799.post-79271269804715010812011-05-20T21:58:54.638+01:002011-05-20T21:58:54.638+01:00I'm not much of a reggae fan, but I'd go w...I'm not much of a reggae fan, but I'd go with that one. Like the way the original was quite leisurely in its dire warnings. The Clash's version was a bit 'wimpy'.David K Waynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10756535951359716522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3355227236397241799.post-19969703421515307852011-05-20T20:21:39.882+01:002011-05-20T20:21:39.882+01:00"Armagideon Time" would have been a good..."Armagideon Time" would have been a good choice<br /><br />the original not the ClashSimonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04914714256308986691noreply@blogger.com